want to bring in bret nutt. his wife is on the ship. he's been talking to her. you and i talked yesterday about how bethany is doing. she -- the last go-round yesterday about this time you said she was crying, very discouraged. how is she doing today? when's the last time you had a chance to talk to her? >> well, today i have not actually had a chance to talk to her yet. they can only talk whenever another carnival ship comes up to them. she was very distraught and everything. i mean i just -- i don't know. i haven't heard back from her. i do know that we got the news last night that they were going to be bringing them into mobile, alabama. so that had to make her feel better because she didn't want to be stuck in mexico any longer than what she necessarily had to. >> describe for us the conditions because i know you had a chance to talk to bethany yesterday a couple times, perhaps one late in the day. how did she describe what was happening there? i understand the odor alone is getting to her and many others on board. >> the odor is so bad that i mean it's maki